Thursday, 22 April 2021

Xutang's Empty Hall Collection: Zen before China?

Xutang's Empty Hall Collection, misnamed "Every End Exposed", 100 koans with instruction by Xutang. This translation also includes sayings from the fraud Hakuin which even the translator admits is ridiculous.

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Words

Master Yunmen (Unmon) had once quoted Master Mazu (Baso) as saying. "Daiba [Aryadeva, the founder of the Daiba sect, student of Nagarjuna] treated all words with respect, this is an important thing."

Then Yunmen said, "This is a fine saying, only nobody has asked me anything."

At that a monk asked, "What is the Daiba sect?"

Yunmen said, "There are ninety-six heretical schools in India, and you belong to the lowest one."

MASTER Xutang:

To bow and withdraw.

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  1. Yunmen appears to treat Daiba as a relative of Zen. So does Xutang. They aren't concerned with linking the teachings rather than a lineage. This seems to be the same kind of treatment that Bodhidharma gets, and that after that master from many generations ago. The idea of "heretical schools"... is Theravada one of those? I couldn't find 96, I found six: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Heretical_Teachers

  2. The monk belongs to the lowest one because he asks what the sect is. Xutang answers by saying what the sect does. Zen is after all a showing not telling sect.

  3. Yunmen seems to casually slip in "nobody has asked me anything"... but is it really casual? Zhaozhou said he could rewrite the sutras "by himself". What is the difference between dialogue and lecture? I flipped open everybody's favorite lecturer, Foyan, to a randomish page and counted five question marks in the seven paragraphs on that page... is that a lecture, or dialogue with an audience? What would it mean if the sutras were necessarily a product of dialogue?



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