Thursday, 20 July 2017

Masters talking about Zen and the Way (Tao?)

Until reading Dahui's Shobogenzo, for me there was no difference between "the Way" and zen in the texts.

Reading Cleary's translation I've stumbled upon several passages where different masters talk about zen and "the Way" or Tao like two sperate things (teachings).

Besides the differentiation I got the impression that both teachings have been "accepted" and taught by zen masters.

I'll post some of them. Only excerpts. Read the whole thing on your own if you need to. What do you guys think?

7 Luoshan

It is not Chan, not Tao, not Buddha, not Dharma.

40 Langya Jiao (ok, this one might mean the same thing. Not sure about it. But why is he using different terms/ names in one sentence?)

Are there any Channists with eyes in my school, any genuine followers of the Way.

95 Gushan

And do you study Chan, study the Way, study Buddha, study Dharma, ...

119 Dongshan Chu

... claiming to understand Chan and the Way. Have they ever even dreamed yet of Chan or the Way?

162 Deshan (in this one Cleary is using "the Way" and Tao. Hm.)

You impulsively run elsewhere claiming to understand Chan and the Way ...

... extensively quoting the verbal teachings of the triplex canon, claiming this is Chan, this is the Way, ...

I also don't seek after your old baldies all over the place who occupy a site and preach Chan and Tao.

166 Linji

You just depend on others, superficially studying Chan, studying Tao, learning names and terms ...

230 Luohan Nan

Chan is not Chan, Tao is not Tao.

274 Linji

... and claim you understand Chan and understand the Way, ...

321 Master Dazhu

Every day until nightfall you run fitfully saying you're studying Chan, learning the Way, understanding Buddhism.

327 Dongshan Chu

You get the sweet talk of old baldies elsewhere dealt out to you, saying 'This is Chan', 'This is the Way', 'This is enlightenment, nirvana,' ...



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