Well. To say this journey has been interesting, would be the understatement of my life. In 2 months my life has went from unenlightened with random passions, desires, and thoughts to "no zen". You must be sick of hearing from me by now but trust me, I think you are gonna like this.
Maybe it is the nature of zen that you have to use conversation to hone your mind. Isn't that what zen masters did? They talked a lot. But in that conversation those zen masters were genuine. They didn't think they had another side of them doing the talking. They didn't use a mental bot to do the talking. I seen from my AMA post you all think my responses on my moral instinct post were me using my "zen guy" personality to respond. I have bad news for you. That was me.
How is it possible this guy who has studied so little of zen texts can be responding to people in that post like a zen master would? How ewk was so easily defeated in Dharma battle. How I was able to switch between guest and host on a whim, seemingly without thinking. The answers just flowed out of me as logically as 2+2. I have a degree in programming like I suspect many of you do. I suspect that from what I have seen here and because zen is the most logical of any ideology (sorry steadfast, I gotta use some word for now) that many of you are too.
That's right. Zen is logical... to a point. That brings me to the nature of this post. I am going to attempt to open that Dharma eye to it maximum for you. I hit "no zen" from the willingness to bear my soul in my first OP. My AMA revealed the doubts you all have. Hell, I got blocked by ewk I think. Didn't want to test those doubts he has listed in the precepts maybe. "Of course zen masters had doubts" he might say. They must because he has them in the darkest corner of his mind. So zen masters must have had doubts as well right? Wrong. Zen masters had no doubts. How could I possibly know that? Well... let's take a look.
So after my first OP I got a lot of responses. What I assumed was people having fun and testing me in Dharma battle on some of those responses was likely not them having fun. Those were the ardent zennists. They were easily handled. I was being me so it was effortless. Gotta love that zen saving energy or that could have been a rough OP.
I was testing my doubts. "Moral instinct" changes the meaning of "true nature". I know now, true nature is just that. It's the absolute best definition that the masters could derive with words. We always say faith and beliefs are not in zen. But it's right there in the last sentence - "not zen" = faith.
Zen = no faith (bad) (it's just a word with no meaning. Zen coloring book anyone?) Not zen = faith (good)
What's better than good? Let me hear you say zennists? Say it loud and say it proud. WHAT'S BETTER THAN GOOD?
No zen = poof
"Not zen" gets you 99.9% of the way there. But "not zen" falls apart at the needlepoint (thanks elaborate) where faith and logic meet. That point is true nature. "No zen" bridges that gap. That is the exact spot where the words fail. It's not moral instinct. It's indescribable. Because objective truth cannot be understood through a subjective lens. We are trying to understand the objective from our tiny subjective window - our mind.
Some of you are already "no zen" but it wasn't getting through. From my AMA, I could see something was off. All these metaphors and hidden meanings. Is this how masters talk? Do they hide their meaning or are they trying to speak plainly about something words can't describe?
The very last bit is actually not the hardest (I think. Maybe it is.) and I hope you let these words (it's a love/hate relationship with them isn't it) sit with you overnight. You guys helped get me there. You attacked me from every angle and the conversation intensified. Masters said "Trust in true nature". Not "faith or belief " in true nature.
If someone says, "this trust in mind thing. That sounds like faith." I can say, "No. It's not faith. It's not something you believe in. You trust it." Do you trust your brother? Is that the same as faith or belief in your brother? I trust that the masters have my back. It's what I did in my first OP. I didn't consult a single text in that OP. The text that came to the conversation were brought by you and the text defended what said. Now trust them again.
Trust in mind. Trust in true nature.
Sidenote: completely ignore everything I just said if you are "no zen". If you think you are "no zen", then most definitely read it. It's not something you need to think about to know you have it.
- poof *
Submitted March 07, 2022 at 05:31PM by cadehalada https://ift.tt/eApHQP6
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