The Real Shobogenzo: Getting beat

Treasury of the Eye of True Teaching #82: 82, via zenmarrow.com

Master Ciming asked a monk, "Where have you just come from?" He said, "Clouds cross the azure of a thousand mountains."

"Why are you in such a hurry?"

"The cries of the geese leaving the water are intense."

Ciming thereupon shouted. The monk shouted too. Ciming struck; the monk struck too. Ciming said, "Look at this blind fellow! Really I should drive you out, but considering you're a newcomer, for now sit and have tea."

He also asked the fund raiser, "I don't ask you about preaching in town; how do you express entering the gate?"

The monk immediately shouted.

Ciming said, "Why do you shout at random?"

The monk shouted again; Ciming struck him.

Ciming asked another monk, "Where have you come from?"

He said, "Yangqi."

Ciming asked, "Where did you spend summer retreat?"

He said, "At Xingjiao."

Ciming asked, "And does the master of Xingjiao have nostrils?"

He said, "Yes."

Ciming thereupon struck him.

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Welcome link; ewk comment: ^who? When someone is cowardly or dishonest, is it like striking them? When you say someone is a fraud or is "pretending to be enlitghtened", is this striking them?

How about when somebody says one of those things, and there is no evidence of it? What's that?

Submitted March 18, 2021 at 10:18AM by ewk https://ift.tt/3cN1lWr