Saturday, 11 July 2020

Seeing Mind - Foyan - Instant Zen

AS SOON AS you rationalize, it's hard to understand; you must refrain from rationalization before you can attain realization.

Hearing such talk, some people immediately declare, "I have nothing to say at all, and no reason either." They do not realize this is in fact a rationalization!

I will settle something for you right now: the ultimate rule is to see your own mind clearly. This is what Buddhism is, as far as I am concerned.

An ancient said, "The mind does not know itself, the mind does not see itself." So how can you see it clearly?

Even though it's your own mind, it's hard to see. All the sages since time immemorial have been people who clearly saw their own minds. My late teacher was someone who saw his own mind, but among those here who were also associated with him in the past, there are very few who clearly see their own minds.

Mind does not see mind; to get it, you must not see it as mind.

This is a realm apart from thoughts.

Now if I say this to people, they think I'm criticizing everyone else, but if I do not talk about it, it will be hard to elucidate.

Zen teachers of a certain type say to people "Fools! Why don't you understand this thing?" First they make cliche of "your own mind," then try to use the mind to realize it. This is called driving a spike into a stump and then running round and round the stump. They pass it on this way, and it is taken up this way, knocking on their chairs and holding up their whisks. This is called trying to use the mind by means of the mind.

There is another type of Zen teacher who tells people not to make logical assessments, that they lose contact the minute they speak, and should recognize the primordial. This kind of "teacher" has no explanation at all. This is like sitting on a ballloon-where is there any comfort in it? It is also like the croaking of a bullfrog. If you entertain such a view, it is like being trapped in a black fog.

I am exhorting you in utter seriousness; I am not lying, I am not making up rationalizations to trap people, I will not allow people to oppress the free, I have no such reasons. If you recognize this, that is up to you. If you say you also see this way, that is up to you. If you say that everything is all right according to your perception, that is up to you, If you say your mindi s still uneasy, that is up to you. You can only attain realization if you don't deceive yourself.

There are quite a few Zen teachers in the world, talking about Zen, talking about Tao. Do you think they are self-deceived, or not self-deceived? Do you think they are deceiving others, or not deceiving others? It is imperative to discern minutely.

In the old days, when I was in the school of my late teacher, I once accepted an invitation to go somewhere. On the way I ran into a downpour and slipped in the mud. Feeling annoyed, I said to myself, "I am on the journey but have been unable to attain Zen. I haven't eaten all day, and now have to endure this misery too!" Then I happened to hear two people ranting at each other, "You're still annoying yourself." When I heard this, I suddenly felt overjoyed. Then I realized I couldn't find the state where there is no annoyance. That was because I couldn't break through my feeling of doubt. It took me four or five years after that to attain this knowledge.

Now you should exercise your attention in this way. I have brought up the saying that inanimate things teach, but many are those who misunderstand. When you see inanimate things, you say they're inanimate, and when you see animate beings you consider them animate:

If you who study Zen do not understand the teaching of the inanimate, how can you understand the task of the journey? If those who act as teachers do not understand the teaching of the inanimate, how can they deal with people in beneficial ways?

I urge you to examine closely enough to effect an awakening. If you do not yet have an awakened perspective, then approach it in a relaxed manner; do not rush.

Comment:

Realization of One Mind is free from subjective conceptualization and so you cannot use conceptualization based behavior to get it.

You cannot roleplay your way into realization of One Mind.

How do you find One Mind when you cannot use Mind? Without thoughts.

Nevertheless it still must be described or no one will understand it.

You cannot use those conceptualizations about it as mental tools to realize it. Mind to seek Mind.

Likewise, if you give up logical argument you are in a 'black fog'.

Foyan wouldn't do that to you. He wants you to 'keep it real'.

There are a lot of people talking but how can you tell what is what?

Foyan heard the voice of the inanimate in a phrase from an argument. "You're still annoying yourself."

It caused a breakthrough for Foyan that was years in the making.

There is no separation in experience; the animate and inanimate flow from the same source, One Mind.

If you don't see this you don't see 'the way' or how to be beneficial to others as a teacher.

Keep examining experience until you have an Awakening but if you haven't had it yet efforting won't help.

Looks like the full case from Foyan had a lot to address around logical arguments, silence and a lack of understanding.

He falls back on unified experience as the ultimate teacher and reinforcement of the importance of a realization of One Mind.

Thoughts?



Submitted July 12, 2020 at 06:27AM by NothingIsForgotten https://ift.tt/2ZZ88Wt

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