if you been to zen and catholic retreats where bizarre doctrine has been pushed down your throat, its a revelation to do one at springwater which was a breakaway group from philip kapleau's rochester center and who the late toni packer knew very well !
the rochester center is easily the most wealthy zen center, i saw their books once !
lol, susan is pulling toni's trick of using photos many years younger!
Submitted January 31, 2018 at 03:22AM by zaddar1 http://ift.tt/2GzeeTa
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