What is waking up? [From an original post someone presented in the r/Awakened forum] I have always had this preconceived notion that when you "wake up" all your problems would vanish. To me waking up just means waking up to the idea that there is something infinite within you, waking up to the idea that there is this other form of consciousness that is you.
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__WanderingRonin__ : There were never any problems to begin with; that is true waking up, haha
[commenter]: if im starving thats not a problem?
__WanderingRonin__: Are you starving?
[commenter]: billions are (or malnourished at least). Im privileged and lucky enough to have all the basic human needs met.
__WanderingRonin__: Then there's no problem for you with starving.
[commenter]: yea but for billions of people. What about them?
__WanderingRonin__: Have you lifted a finger to go and help feed any of those billions of people?
[commenter]: have you? i have thought about it but i dont know which donation site i can trust. you hear stories about corruption and the donations not getting to where they should.
__WanderingRonin__: I'm the one that said that there were never any problems to begin with, remember? You're the one creating the problem for yourself of billions of people starving, not me, so the duty is up to you to feed them.
And now after you've created the first problem of billions of people starving for yourself, then you create the second problem of you not even bothering to lift a finger to help feed any of those people! Don't you see the inherent ridiculousness of that situation? haha
To put it as simply as possible, there isn't a single problem anywhere until you give meaning to this mere meaningless phenomena. For example, there's the 'problem' of the grass on my lawn being a little long and unruly today, so today I'll solve the problem of mowing the lawn. Do you understand?
Your world is as vast and complicated or as small and simple as you want it to be, and you shouldn't go around creating problems for yourself that you have no intention or ability to solve.
[commenter]: easy to ramble on about this stuff as a first world citizen
__WanderingRonin__: So let's get this straight... first you create the problem of billions of starving people, then you don't do anything whatsoever about the problem you created, now you're complaining and casting judgment because I'm not doing anything about the problem that you yourself created? How unseemly! hahahha
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Commentary and questions: I thought that I would share this conversation with the community to reveal some of the differences between the teachings of Zen and what is known in these parts as 'new age' thinking or beliefs, and how those beliefs can be limiting and ultimately ineffectual.
I think that this conversation highlights the differences between what Zen teaches, which is looking within towards mind, and the 'outward thinking' that seems to be a problem for people who don't understand where to look. It would seem that to look outwardly and to try to change things among the myriad things is the wrong direction to take as opposed to looking within; what do you think?
Submitted October 18, 2020 at 09:19PM by __WanderingRonin__ https://ift.tt/2IINBRd
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