Sunday, 17 May 2020

Zen in wikipedia, a first post by 2bitmoment on wikipedia in r/zen

What is wikipedia? It is in my opinion most of all a space of discussion and collaboration. Collaboration is not always possible. Dealing with people who do not have the facts or accept a different set of things they call “facts” is hard. But if you refuse to talk in the public spaces that are open, then it hardly makes for opportunities for truth to come out. Neither having hope in collaboration nor refusing to try seem good paths. Maybe only trying if you are not attached to the results of your interaction is part of the secret to having fulfilling or reasonable interactions. I would like to say that I have edited wikipedia in the past and found it largely open to participation, to debate, to conversations. I encourage those who are interested in study and knowledge to edit wikipedia in the topics they find interesting.

In this first post on zen in wikipedia I want to quote the lead to the article on Zen. I think only the phrase that meditation is a part of Zen is problematic for some people in r/Zen but that this passage is everywhere else consensual.

Zen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen

Zen (Chinese: 禪; pinyin: Chán; Sanskrit: ध्यान, romanized: dhyāna; Japanese: 禅, romanized: zen; Korean: 선, romanized: Seon; Vietnamese: Thiền) is the Japanese term (and the most commonly used term in English) for the principle of dhyāna in Buddhism, and for Zen Buddhism, a school of Mahāyāna Buddhism which originated in China during the Tang dynasty (as Chan Buddhism, Chinese: 禪宗; pinyin: Chánzōng). Chinese Chan Buddhism developed into various other schools, including many Japanese Zen schools, to which the term "zen" in English sometimes refers. The Chan School was strongly influenced by Taoist philosophy, especially Neo-Daoist thought, and developed as a distinct school of Chinese Buddhism.[1] Chan Buddhism spread from China south to Vietnam to become Vietnamese Thiền, northeast to Korea to become Seon Buddhism, and east to Japan to become Japanese Zen.[2]

The term Zen is derived from the Japanese pronunciation of the Middle Chinese word 禪 (chán), an abbreviation of 禪那 (chánnà), which is a Chinese transliteration of the Sanskrit word of dhyāna ("meditation").[note 1] Zen emphasizes rigorous self-restraint, meditation-practice, insight into the nature of mind (見性, Ch. jiànxìng, Jp. kensho, "perceiving the true nature") and nature of things, and the personal expression of this insight in daily life, especially for the benefit of others.[4][5] As such, it de-emphasizes mere knowledge of sutras and doctrine[6][7] and favors direct understanding through spiritual practice and interaction with an accomplished teacher[8] or Master.

The teachings of Zen include various sources of Mahāyāna thought, especially Yogachara, the Tathāgatagarbha sūtras, the Laṅkāvatāra Sūtra, and the Huayan school, with their emphasis on Buddha-nature, totality, and the Bodhisattva-ideal.[9][10] The Prajñāpāramitā literature[11] as well as Madhyamaka thought have also been influential in the shaping of the apophatic and sometimes iconoclastic nature of Zen rhetoric.[12]

As far as I am aware the only phrase in dispute in this forum is “Zen emphasizes rigorous self-restraint, meditation-practice, insight into the nature of mind”. As I understand it what is called by many people here as Dogen Buddhism and also known as “Soto Zen” wrongly defends meditation. There are other Chan sects existant today though, right? are those ok? Do those value meditation or not?

Women and and Zen:

I was told that the section to put women who were Zen Masters of disciples would be here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Buddhism#East_Asian_traditions But there doesn’t seem to have been much of an effort to value important women in the Zen or Chan traditions I welcome all to help in this, do you know of any women in Zen? Please add them if you know how :)

I also want to link to wikiprojects that are somehow related Wikipedia: wikiproject buddhism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Buddhism There is an “open tasks” section in which actions on certain articles are requested or deemed important. Some of those are Zen related.



Submitted May 17, 2020 at 09:59PM by 2bitmoment https://ift.tt/2WCbbDI

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