Alright, I’ve been impelled to make another post.

Since my poem did not seem to inspire any useful conversation nor perception shifting thoughts whatsoever (which was of course the purpose of posting it, may I add), I shall try a different approach rather than my silly, unskilled and distasteful poem ... no matter how proud of it I am.

Here, I’ll start off with this question:

Is the essence of Zen dependent on Zen Masters?

I personally do not think it is. What do you guys think?

As for the relevance of this particular post, it is relevant because I am attempting to challenge the common perception of so many on this sub that the essence of Zen is indeed dependent on people who claimed to be/are thought of as “Zen Masters”. I will also add that I believe that clinging tightly to the words of Zen Masters is antithetical to Zen, as it is an attempt to take refuge in words and ideas rather than resting in your original nature, and acting in accordance with it. In my eyes, this is no more valiant than religious dogma.

I’m here for debate on the nature of Zen, which was in fact the purpose of my last post on this sub ... not that many people seemed to have recognized that. If this isn’t relevant to this sub, then I don’t know what is! ... other than quoting Zen Masters of course ;)

Please, let’s actually discuss! Do I have a misconception of Zen? If so, then please help me understand why? I follow this sub to learn, after all.

I will state that my main position in regards to Zen, is that attempting to attain or realize anything is also antithetical to Zen. Is this a misconception as well?

My main goal with this post, is to alleviate suffering through the shifting of perception via debate and discourse ... because that’s just what I like to do. I admit that often I’m not very good at this as I have clearly failed miserably to do so with the last post lol. For this I apologize, I let ya down!

In regards to me calling out ewk in the my last post, I only wish to see him happy and at peace, as I do all beings. I love ewk, and I singled him out in an attempt to challenge his own views that he takes refuge in, as I am under the impression that they ultimately make him unhappy. But hey, maybe I’m incorrect in that notion, and I am certainly open to this possibility. Call me obsessed with ewk all you want, but maybe I’m just obsessed with helping him.

Let’s talk forreal, fellow Zennians.

Submitted January 22, 2020 at 09:55AM by DrPoOoPyPants https://ift.tt/2NPE2zD